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Bruce Libby
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:shock: I suppose one has to look at it as being better than being
called a deviate! :)

Dan; you are so right this has gone on much to long!

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BUMPAH ~ Dan Billings' to give his defense today on WGAN after the 8:00 am News.

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Exceptional answers to the rhetorical display Carl had yesterday Dan!

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Thank you.

There was a legitimate issue that was raised by the complaint. But our opponents actions and attacks have been over the top and have not focused on the issue at hand.

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Dan - at the risk of sounding redundant, what else is new? That was the opposition's entire battle plan on TABOR from the gitgo.

Thank you for defending the MHPC.

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[size=18]Ethics Commission won't subpoena Maine Heritage Policy Center records[/size]

By Victoria Wallack
Statehouse Reporter

AUGUSTA (Dec 26): A divided ethics commission decided last week not to subpoena records from the conservative Maine Heritage Policy Center to determine if its efforts on behalf of the Taxpayer Bill of Rights qualified it as a political action committee — a designation that would allow people to get a better look at its finances.

[url=http://waldo.villagesoup.com/Government/story.cfm?storyID=84106]source[/...

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Excellent news. I'm sure Senator Scalawag isn't happy, but I am.

From the article:
[quote]And, it was pointed out that other organizations, including the Maine Center for Economic Policy and the Maine Municipal Association also were very visible in the anti-TABOR campaign.
...snip

Becker said four to six donors referenced TABOR with their donation checks, and none were the heavy-hitters rumored to be backing the organization.

[b]Lindemann told the commission that he was behind one of those donations, asking a friend to send in a $125 check to see what happened[/b].[/quote]

Wow.

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[quote]Bill Becker, head of the Maine Heritage Policy Center, argued his organization was not a PAC, but has existed for four years, working on fiscal and tax policy, health care and education reform.

“I never claimed we do not talk about TABOR. Of course we do,” he said, since his organization wrote the proposal Maine voters considered. TABOR, however, is not the reason the policy center exists, he said.[/quote]

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I know this is behind the times but has or can anyone tell me why Mr. L.
that slimmy piece of humanity,could not just send it in himself?
Was he that well known that he had to be this decietful?

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I WAS SURPRISED HE HAD STANDING TO FILE THE COMPLAINT BEING A TEXAS RESIDENT AND ALL.

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Paul I thought the check was from out of state also?

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Carl had already filed his complaint and yes, a cehck form Texas would have raised red flags. I think a check from Colo. probably was seen as a Colo TABOR supporter who knew the score.

BTW, do you think Carl would have the resouces to make such a contribution? I suspect he did not even pay for his trips back and forth or his attorney. Which leads to the next step. Follow the money. We need to find out who paid those bills.

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The check can come from anywhere.

I am not certain what the standards are for accepting a complaint at the ethics commission.

A resident of Cupio? Does any one in the world have standing to make a complaint in Maine elections?

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Lindemann said on WGAN that his attorney worked pro bono.

As for standing -- anyone can make a complaint to the Commission. The Commission decides whether the matter is worth pursuing. It is not an adversarial process like a lawsuit and the person making the complaint does not control the matter, the Commission does.

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[size=18]Why the push for restrictions on free speech?[/size]
By Ron Trowbridge

[b]Wednesday, December 27, 2006[/b]

About the Author
Ron Trowbridge (e-mail: ronaldtrowbridge@yahoo.com) lives in Conroe, Texas. The Press Herald has recently run pieces by Trevor Maxwell, Jonathan Crasnick and Susan Cover that in some degree impugn the reputation of the Maine Heritage Policy Center.

As founder of the Maine Heritage Policy Center in 2002, I cannot let go unchallenged defaming charges filed by Carl Lindemann to the Commission on Governmental Ethics and Election Practices that my birth-child MHPC has broken state election law.

[url=http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/viewpoints/mvoice/061227trowbridge.htm...

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Exactly right. The entire campaign finance scam has reversed the 1st Amendment's plain language- we are now regulating political speech. Thank you Senators McCain, Feingold, Snowe and Collins. Thank you Justice O'Connor. And Thank you President Bush for signing it.

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By AL DIAMON
January 3, 2007

[b]My New Year’s resolutions:

Exercise my freedom of speech, granted as an inalienable right by the US Constitution’s First Amendment, to comment without fear of censorship. [/b]

Hire a good lawyer.

SNIP

As Dan Billings, the lawyer for the MHPC put it, “You can call [the distinction between advocacy and education] a loophole in the law, but, frankly, I don’t see the First Amendment as a loophole.”

In 2007, I’ll be keeping Billings’s phone number handy.

[url=http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid30986.aspx]SOURCE[/url]

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That's a great quote!

(He said modestly.)

:D

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[size=18]Maine voters deserve right to know[/size]

Thursday, January 4, 2007

[size=9]About the Author
Rep. Cynthia Dill is a Democrat who represents Cape Elizabeth.[/size]

The delicate balance of protecting free speech on the one hand and preserving the sanctity of the election process is one that needs constant adjustment.

The controversy about whether the Maine Heritage Policy Center has violated Maine's campaign reporting law highlights the need for clarification of a specific state statute.

[url=http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/viewpoints/mvoice/070104voice.html]sou...

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Dan - way to go, dude!
8)

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[size=24]Ethics commission's ruling appealed[/size]

By SUSAN M. COVER,

Saturday, January 20, 2007

AUGUSTA - A Texas man alleged in court papers Friday that the state ethics commission acted irresponsibly when it ruled on a case involving the Maine Heritage Policy Center.

Carl Lindemann, a former Maine resident who lives in Texas, filed an appeal in Kennebec County Superior Court challenging a decision issued by the commission in December.

The decision followed an October complaint filed by Lindemann against the conservative Portland think tank.

[url=http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/state/070120ethics.html]source[/url]

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[i]Note to the Honorable Judge[/i] - can we get court costs on this one when you're finished, please? If the gentleman from Texas wishes to waste further Maine judicial dollars, let him pay for the results.

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[quote]Billings said the only party with legal standing to appeal is the Maine Heritage Policy Center, which has decided not to challenge the decision.[/quote]

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"Center attorney Daniel Billings of Waterville said any money collected went into a general fund that supports all of the center's activities and was not segregated so it could be spent only on the TABOR campaign."

This is what commonsense would predict for the dispostion of the check. Aside from the question of legal standing of this pest to "appeal" what more is there to say?

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FLAMMENWERFER~ I questioned whether he had legal standing to file the complaint from the get go. This state is consistently inconsistent.

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In the Ethics Commission process, there is no plaintiff such as there is in a law suit. Anyone can bring a possible violation to the attention of the Commission staff and the Commission determines whether the matter is worthy of review. As a result, standing is not an issue at the Commission level.

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PAUL: onsistency would be fatal to their hopes and dreams.

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[quote]As a result, standing is not an issue at the Commission level.[/quote] Perhaps that should be changed Dan. This was orchestrated out of state with the intent to harm MHPC and the Tax Payer Bill of Rights initiative(s). IMHO

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There's a partuclarly vile post at the PPH forum below Susan Cover's article. It's near libelous on Dan Billings, authored by a "Rob Tabor". Really. Interestingly, no similar post in the KJ article by same reporter, which is somewhat longer.[url=http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/state/070120ethics.html] PPH posts libel[/url]

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I saw that post. Rob Tabor used to post over at the now defunct Maine Matters site. I am nearly certain that he is a former AMG poster that got booted from here under several different names. I will not out him in respect to Scott's policy.

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