Should Hillary Clinton go to jail?

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pmconusa
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The FBI director is correct.

The FBI director is correct. Hillary's conduct in ignoring the regulation on the use of unprotected servers is a breach of those regulations but does not rise to the level of criminal behavior. Yes, some of the information she passed around could have been harmful if it fell into the wrong hands but I didn't hear the director say they had any proof that it did.

What everyone has overlooked is her use of this private server to communicate with those who would corrupt her through her and Bill's Clinton Foundation where she trades her position past and potential future to solicit funds for their slush fund in exchange for the favors her position allows her to sell. No politician wants to touch this facet of Hillary's activities because it would put their own corruption at risk and they all are corrupt.

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Jasper, you sound just like

Jasper, you sound just like the irrational, spittle spewing Lepage haters before the last 2 elections. Trump speaks to packed houses while Hillary can't fill a high school gym. I can't wait for the exploding heads after the election.

As Yogi Berra said, "It's like Deja Vu all over again".

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Mainelion, you sound just

Mainelion, you sound just like a stupid douchebag.

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High road, low road, gutter.

High road, low road, gutter. I said before that yesper chooses the last in that list.

Silly me....I forgot the sewers, which are even lower than the gutter....and are clearly his chosen territory.

At least Art Kearney was lovable.

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J-Ass-Per is nothing more

J-Ass-Per is nothing more than the product of an over-active colon although somewhat less appealing.

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It is amazing how rapidly

It is amazing how rapidly supposedly intelligent people are reduced to mud slinging when they run out of argument in the debate. There is only one answer to every question and one best solution for every problem and they are arrived at through healthy debate. It is called the Socratic Method. Compromise is on the path to the answer and the solution but dos not achieve the end result and should therefore never be tried.

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Well, the Republicans

Well, the Republicans overplayed their hand with the hearings today with FBI director Comey. Comey clearly laid out the reasons why Hillary did not break the law, and that the "classified" material she supposedly sent and received were not properly marked as classified.
The Rs came across as conducting a political witch hunt, especially since Colin Powell also used a private server but was never investigated by the FBI.
I suppose they'll continue to beat this dead horse while voters move on to other, important issues.

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Ummm...care to clarify the

Ummm...care to clarify the "Colin Powell used a private server" comment?

And after listening so far, can you really believe that Hillary did not have willful intent?

Are you suggesting that her circumstances in this case were just serendipitous, or accidental?

Did you hear Comey admit that she was negligent?

Are you suggesting that now that her behavior in this case have become more known (not fully known), that 'nothing to see here' should be the standard?

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Melvin, From what I heard,

Melvin, From what I heard, both Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell used private email accounts (but not private servers) to conduct business, but not to the extent that Hillary did. Can I really believe that Hillary did not have willful intent? Absolutely. That's exactly what the FBI investigators found. According to Comey, the 15 to 20 FBI agents who worked on the case unanimously agreed that there was no willful intent. On what basis would you disagree with them? What evidence do you have that they didn't see?

I'm suggesting that the standard exists in statute. If there is political will to change the statute and/or the standard, there's a process to make that happen.

By the way, I think that anyone who watched even a little bit of the hearing should come away convinced that Comey is extremely intelligent, and his integrity is beyond question.

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David in what universe does a

David in what universe does a top government official that handles top secret information "not know" that having a poorly protected home server to conduct government business is not legal? That all of their official correspondence is the property of the government? That destroying over 30,000 emails might rise to the level of intent to obstruct? One of the interesting questions that wasn't asked today was anything about the back up server in Colorado......And there was little or no question questioning regarding linkage between the clinton foundation and the state department....... maybe that's why lynch closed the case so quickly...???

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So, among other things, DA,

So, among other things, DA, you don't understand the difference between personal email accounts and private servers.

And YOU believe that Hillary did not have willful intent in what she did? YOU believe her behavior was accidental, like spilling gravy on one's tie?

This seems very much like getting caught driving drunk a number of times, but being exonerated because you didn't kill anyone or get in any accidents. Putting the nation at risk for years in an egregious way is simply incidental?

While the classified material issue is one material facet, the broader issue is exposing official DOS business to compromise and public exposure. At the same time she tried intentionally to hide the official business from public access via FOIA.

It's on the public record what Comey's determination and statement are; that was not what I asked you.

And YOU believe there's nothing to see here, just 'move along?'

Comey came across better than any civil servant I can recall. That does not mean his judgment was 'correct,' whatever that means in such circumstances. It just 'is what it is.'

In this situation, his publicizing his decision three days after the interview, without having been there, and without any live audio or video recording, is indicative of a rush to judgment. The appearance alone is not complimentary of his thought process here.

You're stepping into AMG's Juan William's spot. What's next, writing a book?

Perhaps you haven't realized that this year's election comes down to a choice between "yessir, yessir, may I have three more bowls full," and the closest thing we've had in our lifetimes to a proxy for "throw the bums out."

I don't ever expect to see the literal equivalent of a choice to throw all the bums out, and who knows what new kind of bums we'd get in their place. The devil you know vs the devil you don't know and all that.

Lots of folks on AMG in past years have said they were going to waste a vote to make a statement, and I argued against it.

This year, I'm making a statement vote that actually has a chance, and whose result will deliver a message to just about every incumbent; whether they choose to open and read the message is up to them.

I liked Comey, but deferring to him on the Hillary case is a cop out on your part. I didn't think you were a lawyer, but maybe you are.

I suppose you're proud of those committee members who used the hearing to soap-box for various and sundry issues that had nothing to do with why the hearing was called.

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PS, David: Comey labeled her

PS, David: Comey labeled her behavior 'sloppiness.'

You know what? Not taping the Hillary 'interview' is sloppiness, and not worthy of a competently led FBI.

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Here's a thought. Has anyone

Here's a thought. Has anyone suggested that the absolute failure and stymied efforts of the obama foreign policy MIGHT be the direct result of four years of hilarity's emails being hacked?

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Melvin, I thought I answered

Melvin, I thought I answered your questions. I believe there was no willful intent because I believe Comey. At least 15 FBI investigators came to that conclusion with a heck of a lot more information that either you or I have. All you have is your dislike of Hillary which probably existed long before this issue ever came up. That's why you're willing to believe the worst, even in the face of the FBI's conclusions after millions of dollars were spent on the investigation.
So your options are to continue to wail and whine and gnash your teeth, OR get active in the Trump campaign and try to get him elected. Or I suppose you could do both, though the former is a waste of time.
As for the soap-box, the entire hearing was a chance for politicians to be on national TV and try to look smart. Comey was the smartest guy in the room.
I have no love for Hillary, but I think Trump is the most dangerous Presidential candidate to run in my lifetime. I'm in the anybody-but-Trump camp.

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Got it, Juan.

Got it, Juan.

PS: I thought lefties were masters of 'nuance.' Apparently not.

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Oh, and one more thing, DA.

Oh, and one more thing, DA.

Given your trusting nature, how do you reconcile the fact that Hilary said she didn't, and Comey says she did? A number of times....

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A friend tells me that

A friend tells me that another 'referral' was on Comey's desk by 5pm this afternoon regarding another issue for them to investigate; apparently whether Hillary lied to congress.

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Comey wouldn't be in charge

Comey wouldn't be in charge of that investigation, but he answered that question yesterday. He said there were just three "classified" emails that were sent. Two were mismarked and one had a small (c) embedded in the body of the email that could easily have been missed, assuming that she even read it.
Just another R witch-hunt that will backfire once again. The Rs are starting to look desperate.

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Like I said, thanks Juan.

Like I said, thanks Juan.

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Oh, and thanks for confirming

Oh, and thanks for confirming our suspicions of how folks like the Clintons have come to hold places of highest honor in our careerist ruling class.

And can afford $12,000 Armani suit jackets.

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I thought it was of interest

I thought it was of interest how the fact that hilarity allowed her lawyers who did not have security clearances to review her emails which contained classified information..... no intent there just "carelessness". In total, the investigation found 110 emails in 52 email chains containing information that was classified at the time it was sent or received. Eight chains contained top secret information, the highest level of classification, 36 chains contained secret information, and the remaining eight contained confidential information. Most of these emails, however, did not contain markings clearly delineating their status.

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I read that her lawyers did

I read that her lawyers did have security clearances.

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I read they didn't.

I read they didn't.

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Jason Chavefftz specifically

Jason Chavefftz specifically asked Comey if they had clearances , the answer was no...

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Another cognitive dissonance

Another cognitive dissonance for David "Juan Williams" Allen to resolve and squirm out of.

Who was it that said "it's not a lie if you believe it's true?"

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unter | July 7, 2016 | 7:54

unter | July 7, 2016 | 7:54 PM EDT

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton (AP Photo)

(CNSNews.com) - FBI Director James Comey told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Thursday that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s lawyers did not have security clearance when they went through her emails to prepare for the investigation into her use of a private email server during her tenure at the State Department.

Comey also acknowledged that as many as 10 people without security clearance had access to the server.

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David "Juan Williams" Allen

David "Juan Williams" Allen is simply guilty of sloppiness and carelessness, but nothing you could hold him accountable for.

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As I said, I read that they

As I said, I read that they had security clearances. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hillary-clinton-lawyer-top-secret-...
Just because that didn't turn out to be correct information, I told the truth as I knew it when I wrote what I wrote. Therefore, I had no criminal intent when I wrote what I wrote. So you can't hold me accountable for writing what I wrote, even though what I wrote was incorrect. Fortunately, none of that was classified, but even if it was, if I didn't THINK it was classified when I wrote what I wrote, no criminal charges could be filed, and I couldn't be indicted. Thankfully. :-)

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If Hillary only used her

If Hillary only used her private email address and she only sent or received 3 barely classified emails in her entire tenure as SOS as David Allen claims, JUST WHAT IN THE HELL WAS SHE DOING ALL THAT TIME. She certainly wasn't doing her job. Maybe she was too busy peddling her influence through the bogus Clinton Foundation.

Man, You. Just. Can. Not. Make. This. Stuff. Up!!!!

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wolf blitzoid was running

wolf blitzoid was running defense for hilarity on the clinton new network this pm lobbing the standard softballs and letting her slide...thankfully I was pulling into the driveway turned it off and made myself a vodka and tonic..........

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