Not online, but Senator Bennett came out in favor of the Bond Issue in today's Lewiston Sun-Journal.
Shame on him.Just think of the message we could send to Augusta if this bond issue was defeated. Get out and vote make sure your friends go to.[ 06-08-2003: Message edited by: Doug Thomas ]
This is the inevitable result of hanging around with too many Democrats for too long. I blame us voters for not giving Rick a better class of people to hang around with.
I think Ken Blais is looking better all the time, [as a replacement for Snowe]. Maybe we can get him into national politics before Augusta has a chance to spoil him.
Mike, I liked what I heard yesterday on The Maine Talk Show.
Bennett has shown me nothing, and is now showing more of it.His responses last fall to urgent pleas to up the campaign profile were simultaneously self-congratulatory and ineffectual.If the items in this bond issue are so vital and important to Maine's future, why the hell weren't they included in the budget just approved? You mean to tell me they couldn't find $60M head room in a $5 Billion plus budget to spur the economic development of Maine and bring in two bucks for every one spent?This act alone should be enough to excommunicate Bennett from any role in the party. He's a pompous pretty boy who's lost touch with reality.We don't need clothes horses with perfect hair strutting the chambers; we need principled leaders. The democrats don't care what their candidates look like; why should we worry about ours?
Rino Bennett lost me 2 years ago when he was senate minority leader with his budget "compromise that will stand the test of time".Ha!!!! That lasted 12 hours. Anyone who could be that easily duped isn't worth consideration as a school committee member.
Are there any transcribers out there who can give us Sen. Bennett's precise statement?Thank you.skf
Senator Bennett is not alone among Republicans in his misguided support for this bond issue. Remember that bond issues need two-thirds support in both Houses of the Legislature to be placed on the ballot.In the House, 25 Republicans, including both leaders, voted for the bond issue on the final roll call:[url=http://janus.state.me.us/legis/LawMakerWeb/rollcalls.asp?ID=280010547]ht...There were no roll calls on the bond in the Senate, but if all the Senators were voting, at least 7 Republicans were needed to provide the two-thirds vote.
Has anyone considered Senator Bennettâ€™s quote that he opposed the legislation with an item that was attached but recognized Maine businesses and taxpayers have realized tangible positive results in the past with like legislationâ€¦? I suggest you read the editorial before you reply.I gave my papah to a neighbor in need otherwise I would print the quote for you all. I have personally known Senator Bennett to be fiscally responsible and pragmatic in moving legislation that benefits Maine.
Then you need to be more specific. I've personally communicated with him, and the taste in my mouth is still overwhelmingly bad.
True to his RINO colors Senator Bennett voted pro-abortion and opposed the Informed Consent bill in May(Woman's Right to Know). Looks like a Snowe/Collins protege.
I'm making my first post under my real name. I had been under "Pachyderm2", but my affinity for Maine "Republicanism" has been waning recently.Sen. Bennett has lost his ideal. He's one of "them" now. Tax and spend. Actually, now he's "spend and tax"![ 06-08-2003: Message edited by: GW Rudmin ]
In my wildest moments, I'd like to believe it's possible to completely change the political tide in this state the same way it went from historically Republican to socialist Democrat starting in 1974.But I also know my hair won't grow back just because I want it too.Can anyone give me any hope? Is it worth one final "student body right", or has an irreversible state been reached?
I think the takers now out number the providers.... We've crossed the Rubicon!
Mel, If I thought there was no hope, there are lots of places to live where you can make more and pay much less in taxes, I'd be in one of them.I'll argue a majority of Mainers are conservative, but there's not been a conservative leader to get behind. To a certain extent it's our fault. The minute the left starts to demonize someone on our side we desert them to quickly. So, the leaders on our side of the isle tend to be too timid and never find and energize all the support that's out there.As the mainstream media loses it's credibility and alternatives develop (talk radio and the internet for starters) we will see changes. The direction that change takes depends on us. If we're willing to do our part and support good people we can and will turn things around.
Senator Bennett was kind enough to rise to the occasion and send me an electronic copy of his editorial that appeared in the Lewiston Sun Journal for your appreciation.Jobs Bond Important for Maine
by Senator Richard A. BennettOn Tuesday, June 10, only one matter will be on the statewide ballot, the so-called â€œJobs Bondâ€. That fact alone should emphasize the importance placed on this bond by legislators and business leaders from all over Maine, as well as the importance for all registered voters to get out and vote on the proposal. In the Legislature, my desire to eliminate a relatively minor piece of this proposal caused me to vote against the package. While that small piece was not eliminated, the remainder of the proposal is too important not to support.The Jobs Bond is designed to create opportunities and employment for Maine people, not just over the next couple of years but over the long term. The proposal is expected to create more than 4,000 jobs and generate millions of dollars in economic stimulus.Anyone who has taken even a passing glance at the sobering picture presented by the U.S. Census knows that Maine is in trouble. We are losing our most important resource for our future â€“ our young people. With them, we are losing able minds and needed talent and energy. Turning around this disastrous out-migration is a difficult challenge, which demands attention on multiple fronts.A crucially important part of meeting that challenge is continuing our investments in research and development and related infrastructure. Studies by the Maine Economic Growth Council and others have demonstrated the critical nature of R&D investments in building a wealthier Maine, with higher wages and more opportunities for all our citizens.The organizations who will receive much of the bond proceeds like to say â€œweâ€™ve kept our promisesâ€ on previous investments. Indeed, they have. The biomedical research component alone has created hundreds of high-quality, high-paying jobs in the five laboratories here in Maine while making us a national center for biomedical research. In addition, they have returned $7 for every dollar Maine taxpayers have invested. While creating great advancements in forestry and agriculture, the University investment has also led to jobs and more than a $4 return on every dollar invested.If Maine citizens are ever to borrow capital funds for investments like this, now is the perfect time. Interest rates continue to be at 50-year lows, and we simply need this kind of economic stimulus. Maine people supported last yearâ€™s economic stimulus package, and it is important that we follow those worthwhile investments with more. There is every reason to believe that this investment will pay off as well as it has in the past.Please join me in voting Yes on June 10th.
"threeputt" will not be down for breakfast. New computer, real name. Thanks to Gerry Rudmin for knocking some sense into me!
There was an excellent letter in the Sun-Journal about how so many projects were listed under one question. I might have supported some of these under a current budget. I cannot see borrowing for them.Do you think anyone will track the number of jobs actually created???[ 06-08-2003: Message edited by: Bob Stone ]
[i]AMG Editor: Interesting. Rick Bennett and Dale McCormack on the same side on this bond issue. Meanwhile, Bennett's and McCormack's position is opposed by Peter Mills[/i].-----Maine Sunday Telegram
Sunday, June 8, 2003Bond proposal touted as jolt for state's economy By PAUL CARRIER, Portland Press Herald Writer
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AUGUSTA â€” Maine voters on Tuesday will decide a 12-part, $60 million bond proposal that supporters say will jump-start the state's economy and opponents say is too expensive. The bond is one of the largest borrowing plans ever submitted to Maine voters. The ballot question asks voters to borrow $60 million for research and development, municipal improvements, agricultural projects and housing, in anticipation of getting about $134.1 million from federal and private sources. The total cost of the bond is pegged at $74.8 million, which includes $60 million in principal and $14.8 million in interest.The bond seeks funding for a dozen items, ranging in size from $1 million to $20 million. The proposal would provide funding for so many different programs that critics have called it a grab bag. Supporters say the projects were lumped together in a "jobs bond" because all of them would prime the pump of the state's economy and do so at a time of low interest rates."If there ever was a time to bond, this is it," said Michael Finnegan of the Maine State Housing Authority, which would distribute some of the money.Supporters insist the proposal will reap big benefits by boosting employment and drawing down millions of dollars in federal and private funds."This will create jobs and stimulate the economy," said Lee Umphrey, a spokesman for Gov. John Baldacci, who supports the bond. "Given the economic conditions and the borrowing rates, it was the consensus that this is a responsible amount to put forward" and that it's better to go to the voters now than in November.Criticism of the bond has been muted. There is no organized opposition to it. One of the few vocal critics, Rep. Peter Mills, R-Cornville, says the bond would borrow too much money. Mills says it is wrong to place a bond issue on the June ballot, because few people vote in June. And he says voters should get to pick and choose among the 12 items in the bond, instead of being forced to make an all-or-nothing decision.[url=http://www.pressherald.com/news/statehouse/030608bond.shtml]Full story[/url]
Doug and Mel,
I think the nation is becoming more conservative; our state's a little slow catching up.
I think the shift has already started. We always lost in the media and I believe that will change because of the "embedded journalist" phenomena. These people spent a great deal of time with, and even trusted their lives to, the military. We tend to adopt the attitudes and outlooks of the people we associate with. [Witness Olympia].
Even Geraldo doesn't come across as such a liberal jerk as he used to. These reporters with combat experience will probably advance quickly, and I expect them to be predominantly conservative. We have the facts on our side, we just haven't had the media. We will.
Today's Sun Journal / Supporting the future of MaineThe interest we can expect to pay, at current rates, on a $60 million bond package is $14,850,000.The amount of federal dollars we can expect to leverage, at current reimbursement rates, on a $60 million bond package is up to $420 million.Minus the principal sum, thatâ€™s a net gain of $405,150,000, significant earnings on our original investment...
Paul, Does the SJ break down on an item by item basis which ones will generate additional federal or "other" money, and how much for each?Just wondering where the $400 million comes from. I am aware of an "anticipated" $100 million mentioned in regard to a $20 million biotech item, and $3 million for the Gulf of Maine Acquarium, but where does the rest come from. It would be worthwhile to track whether that money ever is realized -- and what it gets spent on...nd
I'll tell you where the 400 million comes from, it comes from us, just like all the other millions. So this "leverage" is just an illusion for leveraging your own wallet against your own wallet. This whole idea, and Bennett is guilty of it as well, continues to propagate the deception that money at the next higher level somehow grows on trees.Bravo Sierra. You might as well call it voting for a stickup.Of course there is no organized opposition. You'd have to oppose how many things, 15 or so? Instead, as I said earlier, everybody finds a goodie or two to like.Senator Bennett: if these were such good ideas, why didn't you hold out for including them in the budget a few months ago?
My Rep, Joe Bruno and John Richardson think this bond issue is a good thing too. [url=http://www.pressherald.com/viewpoints/mvoice/030609bond.shtml]http://www...I don't agree. I'm voting NO.
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Richardson never met a spending idea he didn't like; and now we have "dances with Democrats" Bruno going the way of the flesh as well. There's some real pointed principle from our House Minority Leader.And you wonder why we don't hear anything from Halowell?My puke bucket is getting full; anybody got any ideas on where I should dump it?
quote:Originally posted by Melvin Udall:
Can anyone give me any hope? Is it worth one final "student body right", or has an irreversible state been reached?[/b]
We have only one chance and that's to really support the most draconian tax cap we can find. Force the crisis and let the chips fall where they may. Now we are suffering the death of a thousand cuts. Every year we enact a few more unnecessary programs, pass a few more anti business regulations, raise a little more in taxes and now we are rushing into health care disaster. Nothing will change until the powers that be are forced to contend with a sudden and drastic change that they can not lie or compromise their way around. Kill the tax revenue and the entire nanny state structure will come tumbling dowm. In the resulting confusion, real republicans might, if they are fast and brave, actually be able to set the state back on the road to freedom and fiscal well being.Bring on that tax cap. we have nothing to lose. ;)
I think a spending cap is a better idea.
quote:Originally posted by James:
[b]We have only one chance and that's to really support the most draconian tax cap we can find. Force the crisis and let the chips fall where they may.[/b]
A property tax cap will not reduce taxes. It will have the exact same result as the MMA referendum -- it will just shift taxes fron property taxes to income and sales taxes and fees. That's what has happened in California. There were cuts initially, but the politicians adapted and today California is one of the biggest spending states in the country and has big budgets problems that are even worse than those here in Maine.[ 06-09-2003: Message edited by: George ]
Not to be nick picky here, but the only way to cure the ills caused by these "caps" is to eliminate the sole basis of rising property taxes.Make parents responsible again, like it was before Horace Mann and his minions forced this concept of "public schools" on the public, and eliminate government from the education market, and really adopt the free market approach to education.You can continue to dance around the issue all you want, but this is the only solution to the problem. Everytime you try and "reform" the problem, it just seems to get worse.
If this is such a great "investment" why wasn't it funded from the [b]$5+ BILLION budget[/b]?We have an economic problem in Maine because we have high taxes, we have high taxes because state government spends too much. Legislators that can't or won't understand that ought to be fired, and I don't care what party they belong to.We have the best opportunity we're going to get in a long time to send a message to Augusta. Enough is enough, we don't care how good a deal you think this is, [b]NO[/b]!!The time has come for you to stop spending us into the poor house [b]NO[/b]!![ 06-09-2003: Message edited by: Doug Thomas ]
I am struck by the comments by Melvin on this. Aren't you wondering what the real issues are here.I think that the real issue is that the Republicans don't have consensus on the issues. If they do, I would think that would be communicated to everyone. So I guess the real question is, how do they resolve this problem?