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Toolsmith
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Relevant Issue

The only real issue is the one never discussed. Both sides argue as if this issue has already been decided in their favor, leaving only the peripheral issues. A totally dishonest debate on all sides.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/62967-when-does-life-begin

So, when does life begin?

BEFORE - no other life, so privacy and medical issues are primary.

AFTER - two lives, so privacy and medical issues are subordinate.

This is the issue that must be decided. For that to happen, it must be debated not ignored.

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Let me know when you sprout a

Let me know when you sprout a uterus.

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Another non-relevant comment.

Another non-relevant comment. Congratulations!

What does that have to do with it??? Arguing consequences again, instead of the issue. The standard leftist refrain.

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Toolsmith
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YOU PAY FOR IT, IF YOU WANT.

YOU PAY FOR IT, IF YOU WANT.

I believe a great many of them are murder, and I won't pay for that.

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That's arguing the

That's arguing the consequences again. It is NOT RELEVANT if the intended victim is indeed human. It is only relevant if you have already decided it is NOT human.

And that point HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.

Thomas Carter
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You seem a bit triggered.

You seem a bit triggered.

Bruce Libby
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Or if you are conflicted

Or if you are conflicted about it, don't get pregnant !

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You seem a bit triggered. .

You seem a bit triggered. .

Was it the all caps or the cyber-spittle that led to this observation? At any rate, you do a good job at trolling and these twits just can't seem to help themselves from taking the bait.

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It’s hilarious that people

It’s hilarious that people who believe wholeheartedly in a book written by Middle Eastern goat herders who didn’t know where the sun went at night are suddenly interested in science.

It’s all about control. A woman’s right to choose what happens to her body is something they want to control. They spew their goofy mantra of keeping gummint out of our lives, but want women arrested for doing just that.

The American version of the Taliban - armed with bibles and wrapped in the flag.

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It has nothing to do with

It has nothing to do with religion. Whether a person exists or not is important, even to those who do not believe in afterlife.

I hate dishonest debate. When you argue that consequences - how convenient it is when it's not - that's dishonest. Something may be convenient, but that does not make it true.

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I have a little grand nephew

I have a little grand nephew who is now two years old, happy ,healthy ,growing...he was born eight weeks early. But I guess according to the "scientists" who are pro-abortion that's not a life. I do so love that saying"everyone who is pro abortion has already been born.

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The plan, I was told was to

The plan, I was told was to stop enabling these dick wads by not taking the bait. Yet folks continue to do just that. If a dick wad starts a post I don't read the post. If a dick wad comments upon a post started by another I don't respond to the comment.
It's simple.

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True enough, but not easy.

True enough, but not easy. They are obviously professionals, probably doing this very thing on every available platform. So they're much better at it than is possible for those of us not living in a basement, online 24/7/365. So all we can do is try again...

Thanks for the reminder.

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“Blessed are the dick wads,

“Blessed are the dick wads, for they shall show Green-ee’s True colors.”

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The only problem is , it

The only problem is , it doesn't work .

Recognize ,accept , and acknowledge what they are.
Assholes , some are better than others ,number them in descending order.

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It is odd that in every other

It is odd that in every other matter: Alcohol, Tobacco, FIrearms (Oh, My!), Cholesterol, Name-calling, Burning Things to Create and Maintain a Civilized Industrial Nation, etc., etc.,that certain segments of society consistently PREACH Total Abstinence, yet when it comes to sex, the same crowd believes that our bodies are an amusement park.

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No one thinks your body is an

No one thinks your body is an amusement park.

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Knucklehead is yet another

Knucklehead is yet another Republican man who believes that women are to be subservient and controlled, just like it says repeatedly in his Bronze Age book of Middle Eastern fairytales.

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Still evading the real issue.

Still evading the real issue.

If it's human, it's murder. None of the other reasoning matters at all. Not privacy, not convenience, not anything. Only imminent threat to another life could possibly justify... and that does not include emotional distress, only physical harm.

If it's not human, then there is no problem. The other reasoning is primary: distress, privacy, convenience, whatever.

This is the only real issue. The one nobody talks about or debates. Everyone on all sides simply assume their position is correct, and then argue about incidental or consequent issues.

Such a dishonest debate has never lasted this long in the whole history of humanity.

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Toolsmith ,Team Kancho are

Toolsmith ,Team Kancho are professionals?? Shit they are such rank amateurs that even the left wouldn’t pay them..... They might be freelancing hoping to get a job fetching espresso or hot pockets for their betters... The only thing they are professional at is screwing up... They can’t even muster up an effective insult......

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