Presidential Obligations

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pmconusa
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Presidential Obligations

The job, duties and responsibilities of the President of the United States are called out in the U. S. Constitution. They do not include the awarding of medals or the comforting of loved ones in the event of their unfortunate death in war or peace.
If this was a requirement, the President would have had to make over 60,000 phone calls to parents of those killed in Viet Nam and would have had time to do nothing else in World War II.

Could the President make a private phone call if he wanted to? No. Those who received it would be under no obligation to not report they got a call from the President but, who would not brag they did. On the other hand, the President’s phone conversations, if not recorded, are noted by someone as a part of the daily activity undertaken by the Chief of State.

During the course of our history, the Congressional Medal of Honor, the nation’s highest military award has been awarded fewer than 400 times. Most of these have been awarded posthumously so there was no recipient to honor at an awards ceremony save the next of kin. Thousands of lesser medals have been awarded to those who survived with no more pomp than an assembly of one’s unit or division and the medal given by the highest-ranking officer of that unit or division. When it is awarded well after the fact as happens when the citation gets caught up in the bureaucracy for one reason or another, you can rest assured some politician will step forward to participate in the public presentation.

That leads one to believe, like the photo-op, those making the award wish to be acknowledged as well as the recipient; like Bill Clinton awarding the Purple Heart to two soldiers who were captured in the Bosnian conflict and roughed up by their captors. It is no different than being seen as empathetic to the survivors of those killed in combat. Such acts by a President cannot go unnoticed and one can only speculate as to whether such empathy is sincere or expressed to gain favor by appearing compassionate.

In 2107, 5 servicemen stationed at Fort Riley have died in non-combat related incidents, many more are killed in training accidents and the actual total will probably exceed those killed in actual combat. These men died while serving their country irrespective of the fact they didn’t get the opportunity to die in combat. Do their survivors warrant a phone call from the President?

John McCain survived the prison camps in Vietnam as did hundreds of others. He was no more a hero than his comrades or the hundreds who survived the Japanese and German prison camps of World War II. He was singled out because his father was a senior officer in the Navy and eyed by the Republicans as a potential high-ranking politician. Al Gore was another, though his fame had to be manufactured.

It is now difficult for a President to avoid getting entrapped into perpetuating this symbolism, because he will be criticized for not doing so. While getting caught up in this symbolism, he must divert time to perform the job for which he was hired and maybe that is a good thing, since the things he is doing and trying to do are not in his job description. Needless to say, other countries; such as England and Germany have a Queen or a President who is charged to engage in symbolism so as to leave the politicians to their work.

Melvin Udall
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"The job, duties and

"The job, duties and responsibilities of the President of the United States are called out in the U. S. Constitution. They do not include the awarding of medals or the comforting of loved ones in the event of their unfortunate death in war or peace."

So, while you're at it, what are your job, duties, and responsibilities called out in the Constitution? And what do they not include in the way of personal acts?

pmconusa
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That comment is so ridiculous

That comment is so ridiculous that it doesn't even befit one with the least intelligence.

Melvin Udall
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You took the words right out

You took the words right out of my mouth. You seem to have established yourself as the only remaining member of the founding fathers, sent to us to hand down pronouncements on what everyone can and can't do, including the President.

Are you going to sue him for awarding service medals and calling bereaved relatives?

How about having state dinners and concerts in the White House, or egg rolls on the lawn? I looked, but I couldn't find language granting him the powers do hold them.

Have you noticed the Constitution does not include all sorts of other things?

It's sort of like picking up a food item in the grocery, and seeing that it is "gluten-free." Is that the only thing it's free of? How about rodent turds and ground glass?

We may have to anoint you the AMG's Titan of Tautology.

BTW, your utter lack of awareness of and admission of contextual errors makes it unlikely that anyone would engage with you in "debate." Your style is to dismiss anyone and everyone on just about anything they cite in the way of even a preliminary thought on your work.

Melvin Udall
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"Could the President make a

"Could the President make a private phone call if he wanted to? No."

So just what is your authority in such matters? Do you understand just how bizarre such statements read and sound?

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"this is to certify that

"this is to certify that
The President of he United States of America
has awarded "

Above is quoted from an award for wounds received in action . i.e. the Purple Heart.

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According to the Purple Heart

According to the Purple Heart Association, over 1.6 million purple hearts have been awarded to members of the military wounded in combat. It is inconceivable that a President was aware of but a small fraction of them. The authority to make the award in the name of the President or the Congress is delegated to lesser individuals as a manner of convenience and does not lessen the awards validity or meaning.

Such activity has become a way for politicians to make the news and get face time with the public to further their reelection possibilities. As in the case of the President, could he have not called the family of a fallen soldier? I say no because he is bound to repeat the actions of his predecessors and he would be criticized by the press for not doing so. It has gone so far that not only is he obligated to call but to say certain things and if he doesn't he will be criticized. We are now entering the third or fourth day of this nonsense and will continue so long as the press can milk this story or something else happens to ensure they can keep the public's attention.

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