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Roger Ek
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Peak Oil Guy

Where is the peak oil guy who was predicting an energy apocalypse on these pages two or three years ago? Every time I said we could be self sufficient with oil if the government would just get out of the way, he would go nuts. I told him it took 1.8 gallons of Diesel to produce one gallon of ethanol. That provoked him to write passionate defenses of government global warming initiatives. The price of crude has dipped below $48 a barrel as I write this. We have a glut of natural gas. Maine families are saving on heating costs. I said back then that the peak oil guy must have been paid to post that stuff.

Those old facts remain true. Russian refrigerator ships were buying up our fishermen's "by-catch" and mapping the petroleum deposits under the Gulf of Maine at the same time. It's nice to reminisce.

Meanwhile, many paper mills are dying and the environmentalists are circling for the kill in Northern Maine.

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This guy?http://energyskeptic
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Roger,

Roger,

You may be referring to this guy:

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Re: Peak Oil -- Ready or not, here it comes.

quote:Originally posted by Paul Mattson:
[b]NO DRILLING ~ IN AMERICA = YEP ~ Stop your complaining and do something about it.[/
b]

Just about every US onshore half acre that might have oil has been drilled. Oil production is entering a state of decline and there's nothing we can do about it. I can't believe how many people here still believe in the tooth fairy...

I dredged up this old thread which now seems quaint.
http://www.asmainegoes.com/content/peak-oil-ready-or-not-here-it-comes

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Roger: We were self

Roger: We were self sufficient in oil only until the early1950s. Since then we started importing oil because it could be produced cheaper elsewhere. Right now the companies who jumped expectantly into fracking and cranking up old oil wells are scrambling to get out from under. Once they have written off their capital investment and the government doesn't step in to bail them out the Saudis will shut down the spigot and the price will rise again. My guess is that within less than a year the price will settle at about $70-$80 a barrel.

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There are two ways to look at

How about "Peak leftism"?

There are two ways to look at this trend: as evidence that we are doomed because the Left has taken over the key institutions of the culture—or as evidence that the Left has reached such a high degree of saturation that they have nowhere to go but down.

In other words: have we already reached peak leftism?

Have We Already Reached Peak Leftism?

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Tom C: No we have not yet

Tom C: No we have not yet reached peak "Leftism". The last election proved that most people only want to slow it down (Republicanism) and not accelerate it (Democracy). We will get there ultimately but not yet. We can now see the light at the end of the tunnel however.

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Working in Alaska, I had the

Working in Alaska, I had the opportunity to discuss oil production with the grunts working in Dead Horse and Prudhoe Bay as well as the CEO, CFO, and Chairman of the Board of Directors of Conoco-Phillips whom I guided. None of them were remotely concerned about running out of oil. When the Russians drilled the Kora Superdeep Borehole, they discovered that Geologist had grossly underestimated the amount of bacterial life as well as water at depths of "only" 7.5 miles. Geologists were also incorrect in their seismic derived assumption of a layer of basalt at around 3 miles deep. Considering the difficult of getting funding for any theory that goes against scientific PC, it is no wonder that you don't hear more about theories of oil being created much deeper in the Earth or that oil is a by product of living bacteria within the upper mantle and not predominantly fossilized algae and other plant matter.

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Murphy

Murphy

The idea that oil is only made by fossil fuel is kinda sacrosanct, meaning don't question it or you are an out rite loony!

Now we have always accepted this, I mean you and I went to the same damn school, right?

But then I'm watching some documentary where they are talking about methane moons etc in the far off and I'm assuming there wasn't any fossil there, meaning no millions of years of plants harvesting the sun, solar energy chlorophyll compression consolidation etc? Certainly NOT, just geological and thermo processes generating organic compounds. Can you imagine!

No but, not here, its is all finite here , kinda like the lies coming out of DC! hehe

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Jay Leno Opines on evils of

Jay Leno Opines on evils of Ethanol -I didn't realize that fire is a real hazard for older cars because of ethanol. it is just infuriating that the ethanol scam has been forced on Americans by the poliicans in observance of corn growers donations...even when we know the practice is bad, unproductive, expensive, destructive, dangerous and stupid. Why is it still a requirement????

What can we do about it?

Jay Leno

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An oil field in West Texas

An oil field in West Texas has received permission to export their crude because we do not have capacity to refine it. We are an oil exporting nation.

As to Keystone, the governors should just give the company permits to build it. This is a state project. Where the oil is refined or sold will depend on the international energy market, not Obama. He has made himself irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

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the governors should just

the governors should just give the company permits to build it. This is a state project. Where the oil is refined or sold will depend on the international energy market,

Roger, this is an excellent idea. I wonder if it's something that's being considered.

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http://humanevents.com/2015

http://humanevents.com/2015/03/05/ethanol-the-gop-supported-rip-off/

Larry Elder had a pretty good piece as to what a farce ethanol is. After all the outboards and snowmobile engines it has harmed, we continue with this. To the surprise of very likely no one, the government and more disappointingly the GOP continue to support it, likely with tons of big agriculture-ADM money. The whole scenario is debunked as far as environmental value and is simply a matter of government strong arming to benefit themselves.

Roger Ek
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Patriots all up and down the

Patriots all up and down the Great Plains have pointed this out to the governors. They have the authority to do this in their states under the Tenth Amendment. They are all afraid that Eric Holder might say something bad about them.

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I found a place to buy

I found a place to buy ethanol-free gas, so I've been using it in the small engine appliances for a couple of years now. It's not cheap, but it's better than replacing my lawn mower and snow blower engines. Look online for sources, I found one less than a mile from my house.

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Here's an easy recipe to make

Here's an easy recipe to make ethanol free gas.

Use a clear container and add 3 gallons of pump gas to one gallon of water and shake it up for a couple of minutes to thoroughly mixed the water with the alcohol. (Alcohol absorbs water) Once it settles down you will see a definite stratification of Gasoline and water. Siphon the gas into a gas can and you'll now have PURE gasoline.

An octane booster may be needed because refineries use ethanol to boost octane numbers.

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A small engine repair hop

A small engine repair shop near here has a tote bin for bad fuel. A tote bin is a plastic bin inside a steel frame. It is 4 feet on a side which is 64 cubic feet or 280 gallons. They empty it regularly. You can get the bad gas for starting brush piles on fire.

On a somewhat related subject, another crude oil tank car is on fire. It has the newer heavy duty cars. We haul bulk freight of all kinds in our nation. This rash of train wrecks with only one type of cargo is unlikely to have a random cause. Que bono? Who benefits? The same people who destroy logging equipment, ski lodges and private property of all kinds.

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I've been buying aviation

I've been buying aviation fuel from a local airport,100 octane, every thing starts on the first
pull. NO ETHANOL.

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Interesting as to why our

Interesting as to why our alleged representatives are so free with OUR money and possessions so as to accommodate those who lobby them. Ethanol has caused a considerable peripheral costs in many parts of our everyday life that are not luxuries, rather basic everyday needs. When have we seen $4.50 a pound hamburger prior to this? In fact the cost of production of most foodstuffs have increased considerably with no cause other than ethanol which serves no constructive purpose. The equation spreads throughout our economic system in that everything has to be transported to point of sale while eliminating feed for livestock both human and otherwise.

The non-ethanol fuel that I have found is from Canada, and sells for $5- a gallon still after we finally have come to around $2.50 for ethanol treated fuel. Again for no good reason other than because a few well-connected whores are feeding on the masses.........as usual. Time to clean it up or try some new whores.

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I have been buying Ethanol

I have been buying Ethanol free fuel in 1qt cans, works great for my purposes. Also have premixed oil and gas from the same outfit.

Roger Ek
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You can get that non

You can get that non contaminated fuel in gallon cans also. They look like the old Coleman fuel cans. If you are not running a chain saw commercially and don't use that many gallons per year it is definitely worth the extra expense. You will save the difference on maintenance.

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Where do you find these

Where do you find these gallon cans of ethanol free gas Roger? I'd love to get some to use in my chainsaw and Ice auger engines. Thanks.

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This is what I use, i bought

This is what I use, i bought it online but I think Walmart, Tractor supply may carry it
http://www.trufuel50.com/

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Has this topic gone the way

Has this topic gone the way of the dodo bird? Is there a "stop the ethanol stupidity" movement out there somewhere?

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All of these problems or

All of these problems or opportunities exist because the government cannot stay out of the free market economy and the new greedy are pandered to because their money buys votes to help the new greedy find ways to make money without waiting for their opportunity to develop naturally.

Everything, except food energy (fuel for the body) is not reproducible. Ethanol for fuel will become the ultimate source in a free market economy only when sufficient supplies of non-reproducible alternatives are exhausted and the cost to produce them exceeds that of processing and using ethanol. Even that will not be enough because in the meantime we have forgotten the production and cost of bodily fuel (food) to the extent we already import enough to feed over 27 million people and must subsidize our farmers in order to encourage them to grow it. The consequences of the economic system our government has created is now becoming evident in Africa and the Middle East where countries have imitated us but not bless with the amount of our natural resources.

As I opined earlier in this thread the Saudis cannot afford to see the US economy collapse and I was off by about $10 per barrel. My guess is they thought the government might subsidize the oil producers in which case the economy would have collapsed sooner due to the printing of money and the reduction in the value of the dollar. They erred on the conservative side and let the price go up to only $60 per barrel. They have bought some time but shouldn't have long to wait before some other government bureaucrat figures out a way to make fast buck on the gullible American public. The government controls the farming industry, the energy industry, the military industry, the mining industry and now the health care industry so there is not much left.

People in the 1930s feared we would let democracy morph into Communism and later into socialism. What has happened is we have really morphed into a form of fascism which is really the most insidious form of democracy.

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"People in the 1930s feared

"People in the 1930s feared we would let democracy morph into Communism and later into socialism."

That was the intent of The Travelers who went Russia to learn all they could about the new Soviet system. They came back and wormed their way into education, government, utilities, unions and the military. Amity Schlaes documents this subversive revolution in her epic work, "The Forgotten Man". Summer is just about here. It is a good summer read except that it will keep you awake at night as you realize, So That's how that happened.

http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Man-History-Great-Depression/dp/00609364...

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You would think after several

You would think after several thousand years of recorded history that there is really nothing new, only nuances of past events. That knowledge alone should have enabled us to fashion a system that is better than we have today. I guess it is just the penchant for doing something, whether right or wrong and ignoring the do nothing alternative.

A classic example is the effort now going on regarding so called "climate change". Instead of mitigating the deleterious effects of climate change and acknowledging there is little we can do about we are being convinced by those who will make money from it that we can change it.

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I will second Roger on Shales

I will second Roger on Shales book, definitely worth the read and make sure to pass it on.

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At least one state gets it

At least one state gets it about ethanol...

Hawaii Bill to Eliminate Ethanol in Gasoline Signed Into Law
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By SEMA Washington, D.C., Staff

Governor David Ige signed into law legislation to repeal the requirement that gasoline offered for sale in Hawaii contain a percentage of ethanol.

Legislation to repeal the requirement that gasoline offered for sale in Hawaii contain a percentage of ethanol was signed into law by Governor David Ige. The new law becomes effective December 31, 2015. The law recognizes that the requirement of blending ethanol into gasoline does not produce any economic benefit for the state and the import of ethanol creates an economic burden for state residents. Ethanol increases water formation, which can then corrode metals and dissolve plastics and rubber, especially over a period of time when the vehicle is not used. Current high-performance specialty parts along with pre-model-year ’01 cars and parts may be most susceptible to corrosion. The lifespan of vehicles and equipment can be dramatically reduced with the wrong fuel, and owners could be confronted with breakdowns.

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Got some oil for the mower in

Got some oil for the mower in a local convenience store and on the shelf above was Dry Gas. Wonder how much of that they sell?
charlie

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Probably enough to make it

Probably enough to make it pay. I use it thru out year as unleaded gas is still prone to moisture IMO.

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If Hawaii (more leftist than

If Hawaii (more leftist than Europe) objects to ethanol in gasoline things are really upside down.

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