The man can't tell Christmas from the month of the New Year

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The man can't tell Christmas from the month of the New Year

How very very appropos. The author is a poetic genius.Oracle

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The man can't tell Christmas from the month of the New Year

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU AUG 12, 2004 JANUARY -- NOT CHRISTMAS -- KERRY IN CAMBODIA**Exclusive** TOUR OF DUTY author and John Kerry historian Doug Brinkley is rushing a piece for the NEW YORKER: to set-the-record-straight on Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia tale, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. Kerry has turned to author Brinkley for a "modification" after it was exposed that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968, as he once claimed from the Senate floor. The Brinkley piece for the NEW YORKER will now say that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas, but rather in January, publishing sources tell DRUDGE. MORE Since the early 1970s, Kerry has spoken and written of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia. Kerry mentioned it in the floor of the Senate in 1986 when he charged that President Reagan’s actions in Central America were leading the U.S. in another Vietnam. Here’s what he said as excerpted from the new book, UNFIT FOR COMMAND: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me." John O’Neil’s, author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, comments on the “clarification:”“John Kerry describes Christmas Eve in Cambodia as a critical turning point in his life. We now know that his story is completely false. My question is how many people do you know have invented a turning point, one that is seared in his memory? While it makes sense for John Kerry to come clean about the Cambodia story, it is one of several tales that the Kerry campaign will have to face and clarify.”“By claiming we were engaged in a war crime and crossing international borders, John Kerry damaged the credibility of all the commanding officers above him and insulted the sailors who served with him,” said John O’Neill, member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.” Developing...
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Maybe Kerry was really celebrating the Chinese New Year...that's usually in January; sometimes February, right?I think Kerry should start relying on better intelligence sources for rewriting his own history.

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Tet is in January...

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Tom O: You're partly right. Tet is based on the lunar calendar. Although it can be in January, it can also fall in February. If I remember correctly, the Tet Offensive in Vietnam was in February on the western calendar.

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Vic,
January 31st was the first day of the Vietnam New Year in 1968.
The Tet Offensive ran from 29 January - 31 March, 1968 (if I remember correctly). There were some attacks during the 3rd week in January also.Good book on the subject - "Tet!" by Don Oberdorfer

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I'm not a John Kerry fan; I really don't know much about the guy. Neither am I a George Bush fan, although we lived in the same neighborhood and I met him (and Doro and a few of the others). My memory of our meetings are considerably clouded, due primarily to the conspicuous affluence of incahol. I can't imagine that our meeting is forever ingrained in young Georges memory, either. Whenever I tell people I met the guy, everyone wants to hear all the lurid details and, for better or worse, there isn't much to tell. That said, I'm going to make an attempt to defend Kerry.Back in the late, post Vietnam 70's, I was in the business of following Soviet submarines from one end of the Atlantic to the other. In the three or four months preceeding Christmas of one of those years, my shipmates and I had been on a particularly long (and successful) mission and were all looking forward to steaming into Charleston, SC, just in time for alot of us to make it home for Christmas. On the day we were to return, I'm pretty sure it was the 19th, 20th or 21st, we got word that the Godless Soviets had sent another missle submarine that was about to enter the North Atlantic and, because we were the only intact crew, we would have to return to sea to keep an eye on it. All leaves, mine included, were cancelled. Imagine how we felt. For what it's worth, we set a new record: 77 days at sea, diving off Charleston on day one and surfacing off Charleston 77 days later, all the while keeping an eye on Ivan and poking some serious holes in every corner of the sea. My point is, as significant as was our mission, the achievements of the crew, the fact that, in the final days of the trip we ate canned bacon, chocolate cake, frozen steak and powdered milk 4 meals a day, I always think of that trip as The Christmas Trip. It wouldn't surprise me if, at some point in the many retellings of the story, I might have mixed up what actually occured on Christmas day (Bean boots and a sweater) versus the 76 others. There is a real possibility I may have told two different versions of the same story. Does that make me a liar or an otherwise dispicable person?This is a nonstory that a bunch of political bottom feeders will attempt to use to discredit a guy who deserves a lot of credit for having been in the game even if his memory of specific events are somewhat clouded by the fact he had bullets whizzing around him as he ate every last bite of what, at best, could be described as dog food.

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TaxFoe....speaking of dog food, this dog won't hunt I'm afraid, when you speak of the circumstances between yourself and the candidate Kerry, which you so well elucidated in your comments above.Your comparative analysis of your sub service to Mr. Kerry's Swift Boat service in the Vietnam era, simply does not compare.You mnust understand TF that this man went there very well prepared to make an historical album of "his sevice" in Vietnam, including his use of a movie camera to put most of his "staged" exploits on film.This man was thinking about his future in politics. He was, and still is in my humble opinion an egomaniac, who will not be satisfied in this lifetime, unless he has an address that reads 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.And it is my intent to do all I can do, to ensure that he is not elected for the sole puprose of satisfying his huge ego.Oracle[ 08-15-2004: Message edited by: Oracle ]

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Some are attacking me for attacking Kerry. I am accused of "hate" when I mention Kerry's fake record. How dare I? Here is an example of the why:

quote:Edwards, returning to the campaign after a three-day break, took issue with Cheney's comments and his target — Democratic presidential nominee Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran.
"He took that word and distorted and tried to use it to argue John Kerry will not keep the American people safe," Edwards said. "He's talking about a man who still carries shrapnel in his body. He's talking about a man who spilled his blood for the United States of America."

The entire Kerry campaign is built around Kerry's war record. One cannot attack his crap record in the senate on defense, 19 years of voting against each and every arms and intel bill that passed before him and a record of authoring failed bills to gut defense and intel. His try to unilaterally disarm us. His authoring a Mass Statre executive order under Governor Dukakis that eliminated state cooperation in civil defense. No, all of that is off the table because Kerry was in Vietnam for 4 months 12 days 35 years ago and has a heroic record.Well, his record there is a fake. He gamed the system to get awards that he did not deserve and he scooted as soon as he figured a way out. That is fact, documented, witnessed, not disputable. The fiction is falling apart around him and the left is now in a desparate "nuts and sluts" defense.It is Kerry who is lying about his record. Why can I not mention that?Let me ask a hypthetical...Say there is an evil rich republican candidate who claims he should be president because he was a brilliant businessman. Now say some enterprising leftie journalist goes to the board of directors and every executive who worked for that company and found that the entire board knew the presidential candidate made his fortune by shaky business dealings and 80% of the executives who worked for the company knew the candidate made it to the top by stabbing them and others in the back, taking credit for their work. Let me ask, would the hysterical leftie press hide the news, pretend it does not exist, attack and try to destroy the reporter? Nope, they would run with it with the gleam of a pulitzer in their eyes.Where are the reporters after Kerry? Bias, spin, and coverup.That is why I have the poor grace to mention the issue every time I can. The partisan, leftist, Kerry media simply will not do its job. :eek:

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James, that last thread of yours was nothing short of brilliant and right on the mark. You aced it my friend.Oracle

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I found this on the internet:The Night Before Christmas (Cambodian Version)Twas the night before Christmas and we were afloatSomewhere in Cambodia in our little boat.While the river was lightened by rockets red glareNo one but the President knew we were there.The crew was all nestled deep down in their bunks,While the Spook and I watched the sampans and junks.Our mission was secret, so secret in fact,No one else would remember it when we got back.When out on the water there arose such a clatterI leaped down from the bridge to see what was the matter.The incoming friendly was starting to flashAnd I knew that the ARVN’s were having a bash.The snap of friendly fire on the warm tropic airConvinced me for sure no one knew we were there,On a clandestine mission so secret it’s trueThat I’m still convinced only Tricky Dick knew.While I huddled for safety in the tub on the bow,I thought of a title, “Apocalypse Now.”To give to the films I was I making each dayTo show all the voters when I made my big play.As I sat there sweating in my lucky flight jacket,Spook said, “Merry Christmas!” and tossed me a packet.And what to my wondering eyes did appear,But a new lucky cap, which I still have right here.I keep it tucked here, in this leather brief case,Just sharing with the press its secretive placeAs I regale them again with my senate refrain,That Christmas in Cambodia is seared into my brain.Don’t bother to quibble with history my friend,By pointing out Johnson was President then.Don’t listen to Swiftees who try to explain,For I tell you that night is seared into my brain.Down Hibbard, down Lonsdale, and you too O’Neill,So you don’t remember? Well it’s something I feel.I don’t need all you Swiftvets to support my campaign,Cause Christmas in Cambodia is seared into my brain,Into my brain, into my brain, into my brain...Russ Vaughn2d Bn, 327th Parachute Infantry Regiment101st Airborne DivisionVietnam 65-66

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