Epstein ,hangs himself in cell..

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johnw
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Epstein ,hangs himself in cell..

Jeffery Epstein found hung in celll....unbelievable...https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEA4Q7z4ns8C73w9Fq6X1SE8qGQgEKhAIACo...

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does that mean that all the

does that mean that all the perps who were shaking in their boots are now going to throw a party???

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All hopefully he left an “If

All hopefully he left an “If I commit suicide “ note with the combination to the safe.....

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I wonder how much it cost to

I wonder how much it cost to off him.

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How long before the media

How long before the media turns this into a Trump conspiracy to cover up....? It ignores prominent democrats like Clinton ,Mitchell and Richardson and focus on thin evidence of Trumps dealings with Epstein...oh where oh where is Christopher Steele when you need him?

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His event has alfready

This event has all ready brought out some interesting aspects to it.
The victims want closer , incarceration would be understandable revenge,death is the ultimate closer
given the piece of shit is gone never to hurt again.

Everyone is parroting ,questions on how it happened and need to investigate. Which are the means to blame the system i.e. everyone right up to
the president , so johnw imo that has already happened (started).
Of course if he had been given "house arrest" , the same talking heads would be screaming about special treatment of the rich ! That would have been an alternative available but like in previous case a bad one. Although escape risk was real but probably a weak argument given hysteria already inplace.
As for accomplices ,they are at greater risk since he is gone but will also provide a path to others and their involvement.

There is of course some legitimate questions about facility operations . It is a common occurance for persons in custody to attempt and commit suicide.
Operationally regular observation of inmates would require once every 30 minutes . From there it goes to every 15 minutes and can then go to
one on one coverage with a staff member contuinuously observing umate. The level of coverage depends on the assessment of individual done by a clinical professional. Such assessments are not an exact science and always involve some risk. I uspect tghe first incident was a aatempt to get into house arrest
and would have been a factor to lesson coverage.

Based on my experiecne dealing with attempts and those who did eventually commit suicide . I learned most attempts like cutting up etc. are attention manipulative than true death wishes. Those who do cut themselves and known to do it to well are accidents are more than attention getting . Such behaviors increase risk fcatrors are when they go for neck ,armpit or cut paraell to vessels not across vessels. Of the less comon means "hanging " is always more risky and usually effective quickly.
In many cases the persons pattern of behavior is telling,the most dangerous is the person that gives no indications that they want to kill themselves. Followed by the inmate who at one point says I want to kill myself and meets evey asessment standard of being at low risk. In the busines they are sad events not surpises.
THereis no real thingas Suicide Prevention at best we practice Suicide Intervention.

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Prison guards are generally

Prison guards are generally stupid and easily bribed/manipulated. It was probably an inside job ordered by folks way, way up the food chain.

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I suspect mattybubbles may

I suspect mattybubbles may have fulfilled some of the "alternative" fantasies on Orgy I.
It's all good, though.....all good.

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Ugentoo

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I did start it with some " interesting "aspects !

Allowing for the usual responses from the team.

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When they start pulling back

When they start pulling back the covers on Democratic icons like Mitchell and Richardson, something was bound to happen....but with the FBI involved I’m sure it will be a thorough and exhaustive investigation.

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Early information says

Early information says officers were not or didn't do checks ! All staff were working extra shifts due to staff shortages.

Curiously aslo report in MST said he had a cell mate who was transferred out befoe his suicide.

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Curiouser and curiouser .....

Curiouser and curiouser .......

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Someone posted...."If you

Someone posted...."If you were surprised about Epstein's suicide, think about how surprised he was!"

Last known visitor to Epstein's cell...

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Just for clarification ...

Just for clarification ....Epstein may have been "hung" but, that is an anatomical description. He was definitely "hanged". He was found hanged in his cell.

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Think about the contrast Paul

Think about the contrast Paul Manafort , financial criminal held in solitary confinement, Epstein.... well that's another matter....

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Good point as both cases and

Good point as both cases and conditions of confinement were negatively impacted by outside input opinions etc..
One again if anyone questioning this also complained about past case you enabled this, maybe unwittinnly but that did.

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"Epstein was in MCC’s Special

"Epstein was in MCC’s Special Housing Unit. A former warden described the security in SHU or the “hole” or “box” as only second to those of supermax prisons. Inmates eat and shower in their cells. Their hands are cuffed behind their backs whenever they step outside. No objects that can be used to harm anyone fall into their hands. They’re not allowed to make physical contact with even their own lawyers.

According to a former MCC inmate, suicide watch inmates are supposed to wear straitjackets. The sheets are paper thin, the ceiling is 9 feet high and there’s nothing to attach a rope to."

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/274595/what-happened-jeffrey-epstein-da...

This article has some interesting background on the entire prison and courthouse structure in NYC.

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So many people wanted him

So many people wanted him gone... it's a miracle he lasted this long. I think that's why he was sent to jail and not house arrest - to make him accessible, without his own security team.

Anyone care to take odds on how long his two subordinates last? I'll bet they get custody and not house arrest or bail too, and will also "suicide" mysteriously. No chance anyone will EVER name the names. Too many bigshots on that list...

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it appears that Epstein's

it appears that Epstein's forte apparently only focused on underage teenage girls, and it appears that there is quite the appetite among the "elites" for this.
But the stomach turning thing may be ,how many of these same "elites" have appetites that are fixated on even younger victims ?How many other Epstein are there out there .....pandering to those elites and their sick perversions?
If we had some honest and courageous people in government they wouldn't stop until they ran this whole mess to ground.I fear this will die on the vine and be no more than a blip , and the horrors will continue.

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Toolsmith

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I disagree on "many wanting him gone" .
Everybody was actually better off with him alive and controling the details of past.
Alledgedly the behaviors were in the past prior to first court case.
That was one powerful hammer to hold over others along with his wealth.

Given number of documents realeased it is probablle that names are already available .
Here again "he was sent to jail" and why he was not granted house arrest, imo, caused by out cry about the past case and the former fed. prosec.
who was labor secretary for Trump. Which was nothing more than another attempt to get Trump.
The anti Trumpsters screwed anoyther one up , good job guys !

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Oh, I think the outcry is a

Oh, I think the outcry is a great excuse... but I just don't think it's the actual reason. Which is why I think the life expectancy of his two subordinates is very poor at this moment.

The anti-Trumpsters will continue to fling this around anyway, now that there's no chance he can contradict their lies. That's how they'll deflect attention from their own involvement (and some certainly are on that list) and continue the "stop him" coup attempt.

The risk is that the two subordinates and/or the associated documents will do what he no longer can... finger those actually guilty.

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Johnw

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We know of at least one out there.
William Jefferson Clinton.
Husband to loser Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Come to think of it, she may be number two.

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I saw something the other day

I saw something the other day saying that Hillry's name is in flight logs of Lolita Express.

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No surprise there, eh?

No surprise there, eh?

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I saw something the other day

I saw something the other day saying that Hillry's name is in flight logs of Lolita Express.

What rank orifice of the internet were you holed up in to find that unsubstantiated gem? You're right Udouche, it's no surprise at all that Al would inhabit a dark recess to get the information that validates his base instincts. You all so desperately want a conspiracy you smell like bitches in heat when this stuff comes up.

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Such eloquence from a

Such eloquence from a normally fetid holster.
Congratulations!
You've outdone yourself.

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Obviously #2 has been in too

Obviously #2 has been in too close contact with #3 evident by the knowledge displayed in his above post.
It is really unfortunate when a team member talks about another like that,understandable though !

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Ex: Very similar to the

Ex: Very similar to the fetid wrangling to find a collusion... or any other scandal... against a certain person YOU hate. Odd, isn't it, how often people are most enraged about behavior that precisely mirrors their own obsessions.

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Hey Exlax.

Hey Exlax.

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