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Are party platforms obsolete???

As I look over the Maine State Republican Party Platform I can't help but wonder...is it obsolete? Does it really mean anything to have any debate about what should be in the party platform if so many of "our" elected officials regularly ignore the principles outlined in it? One can look at the votes of many Republicans in Augusta and wonder, who exactly do they represent? What are their REAL ideals that the stand by? Perhaps it would be good for all elected Republicans to take the time to read through the platform and remind themselves of what the grass roots members of the party beleive should be the principles of the party to follow.

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I happen to believe in the Republican Party platform, and will do everything I can to help those who support it get elected. Those who don't can look elsewhere for support.

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I have worked my butt off trying to get Republicans elected. Once in a while I would like to see those Republicans remember that the platform does exist

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MGReily: When you speak of Platforms, read this article, and please tell us if any of these "planks" are in the National GOP Platform, and the Maine State GOP Platform?[url=http://www.theclairefiles.com/Personal/landmine.html]www.theclairefiles....This is an oldie, but definetly, a goodie!!!!!!

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Short answer:Yes.Who the heck follows the planks when they get in?Precious few.Chris.

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Especially if you are a Democrat. Say one thing. Do another. :D

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quote:Originally posted by MGReilly:
[b]I have worked my butt off trying to get Republicans elected. Once in a while I would like to see those Republicans remember that the platform does exist[/b]

Even holding them marginally accountable is hard. I have a letter I want to send to our senior senator from the Cumberland County Republican Committee. The meeting is tonight. I haven't received this months meeting announcement. Not good.

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You do know it's tonight, right James?

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James,How many Republican legislators in Cumberland County voted for the budget and Dirigo Health? :(

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Some, not all. I'd have to check the list. For example, I no rep Snowe-mellow voted republican.

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quote:Originally posted by Melvin Udall:
[b]You do know it's tonight, right James?[/b]

Yes an I beleive you provided location data on another thread last week so I should be ablr to find the place, unless they have moved it.

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LL is exactly right. (Uh oh!)Best,
Scott

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James,You got problems when your County Chair is voting for Dirigo and the State budget. Dirigo Health roll calls for Cumberland CountyTURNER of Cumberland R Y
AUSTIN of Gray R N
BRUNO of Raymond R Y
CLOUGH of Scarborough R N
CRESSEY of Baldwin R N
DAVIS of Falmouth R X
GLYNN of South Portland R Y
MAIETTA of South Portland R Y
McKENNEY of Cumberland R N
MOORE of Standish R X
MUSE of Fryeburg R N
SYKES of Harrison R Y
TOBIN of Windham R N
Budget Roll Call for Cumberland CountyTURNER of Cumberland R Y
AUSTIN of Gray R N
BRUNO of Raymond R Y
CLOUGH of Scarborough R Y
CRESSEY of Baldwin R N
DAVIS of Falmouth R N
GLYNN of South Portland R Y
MAIETTA of South Portland R N
McKENNEY of Cumberland R Y
MOORE of Standish R Y
MUSE of Fryeburg R N
SYKES of Harrison R Y
TOBIN of Windham R Y

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James, I will support your measure tonight whole heartedly. However, I think we need to address the problem we have with our elected officials in Augusta. There is definitely a problem with the "leadership" we have right now.[ 06-17-2003: Message edited by: MGReilly ]

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Don't disagree at all. I am curious what the excuse will be. We'll see this evening. Now that we own the mess, how do we claim we didn't do it??

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James:I received my meeting notice in the mail a few days ago, and it his a large description in it concerning "Consideration of sending a letter to U.S. Senator Olympia Snowe" in it, so it will be discussed tonight. I will see you there.Tony

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James, I forgot to mention, if you want me to email you any of the details from the meeting announcement, let me know.

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Jim,You have my support and vote to send Senator Snowe a letter expressing our displeasure with her vote.I haven't seen the draft, however, I do hope that this letter is pointed, but polite and expresses displeasure with her vote(s) and not a personal attack on the Senator.Although I personally oppose her re-election and will not lift a hand to support her in anyway, I believe we must show respect for the office she holds and her as a person.Further, with the recent votes she has cast, we have more than enough to express our concerns about without resorting to a personal attack.Ray

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re: party platforms...
I think they are important and think we need to ask for more commitment from those running for office to stick with the platform. At least in the Republican party. I don't care what the democrats do.
We need to make it an issue during the primary.
The problem with the platform is that principles can be interpreted broadly. I would vote for a more specific platform, at least on most issues.
I refuse to vote for anyone who does not openly support the party platform.[ 06-17-2003: Message edited by: Keith ]

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Keith and Ray...Right on. Well said.I think Andro held together very well this session. We are swimming in Democrats up to our necks! Mean ones too! :D

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I was just struck by something....Olympia voted for a tax cut.Leadership in the Cumberland County Delegation voted for tax increases.The majority in the Cumberland County Delegation voted for Hillary style health care.Ouch.

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quote:Originally posted by TonyO:
[b]James, I forgot to mention, if you want me to email you any of the details from the meeting announcement, let me know.[/b]

I would appreciate it. I am beginning to believe I might have been sort of forgotten in the mailing on purpose.E-mail me at both jim.verdolini@cbetech.com and vverdoli@maine.rr.com so I will be sure to get it.thanks[ 06-17-2003: Message edited by: James ]

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quote:Originally posted by Ray Richardson:
[b]Jim,You have my support and vote to send Senator Snowe a letter expressing our displeasure with her vote.I haven't seen the draft, however, I do hope that this letter is pointed, but polite and expresses displeasure with her vote(s) and not a personal attack on the Senator.Although I personally oppose her re-election and will not lift a hand to support her in anyway, I believe we must show respect for the office she holds and her as a person.Further, with the recent votes she has cast, we have more than enough to express our concerns about without resorting to a personal attack.Ray[/b]

I proposed a letter and provided a sample of what i think such a letter should look like, which I hope to read tonight. I am not set on the words, just the sense that advises our senator that many if not most of the republicans in Maine are not happy with her lack of support for the republican agenda.

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I remember back in 1994 and how well the "Contract with America" worked. It seems to me that the Republican party platform could be a basis for a so called "Contract with Maine". I just wish our elected Republicans had the same idea.

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Mark,That was a great coup by the US House Republican Caucus. Can the Maine House Republican come up with a similiar plan? Will the Republicans in your county who voted for tax increases and Hillary healthcare come on board?Can you make them tow the line without them explaining it away? These are the questions to ask at the meeting tonight.

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I expect that it will be a spirited meeting tonight. I am not sure if the Chairman will rule some of the discussion out of order but I will certainly try to bring these issues on the floor for discussion.

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Great idea MG!!!! Run with it~~~ Send the idea to leadership ASAP!!!I will eagerly await to hear their response...

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Now I understand why Republicans lose. They eat their own.

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