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Torture

Just listened to some drivel from political pukes (most of whom were DemocRats) expounding on how torture was wrong, wrong, wrong...period! It was not American, it was evil and never has a place in our world. You may have seen some of the brain-dead dunces on the CIA confirmation hearings. Well, torture is not wrong. It may be necessary.

If your daughter was kidnapped and buried alive and you caught the kidnapper, there is no man on earth worth the name of father who would not put the bastard through some serious pain until he talked or died. This is ot just a movie scenario...it has actually happened more than once.

If you could torture one of the Islamic maggots who killed 3,000 people on 911, to get the plan before it happened, would you not put some serious effort on the bastard to try and stop it? Yep!

To quote Sophocles..."The end excuses any evil."

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During the Revolutionary War,

During the Revolutionary War, British soldiers treated American patriots harshly, often torturing, starving, and cruelly mistreating their prisoners as if they were less than human.

After capturing over 1,000 Hessian soldiers in the Battle of Trenton, George Washington was asked how to deal with prisoners of war, with American patriots weary of how the British had been treating their comrades. In his orders, George Washington said, "Treat them with humanity, and let them have no reason to Complain of our Copying the brutal example of the British Army in their treatment of our unfortunate brethren…. Provide everything necessary for them on the road."

The father of our country also wrote, “Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.” – George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775

I'll go with our first President on this one. Hopefully he'll stop spinning in his grave soon.

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The peole conplaining have

The people complaining have already outlawed it.
So it isn't about torture it is about Trump !

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Washington was speaking about

Washington was speaking about prisoners who were captured and were no longer a threat to the British. The torture the Brits unloaded on Americans was simply evil pleasure they got and some revenge. Washington did not address the issue here and neither did you. How far would you go to get information from an Islamic terrorist who planted an atomic device in one of our grade schools? How far would you go to get your daughter back from a psychopathic serial killer/rapist? How far would you go to get information needed to be able to stop 911? We are not talking about revenge or sadism or sadistic pleasure...we are talking about making a human pond-scum virus talk to save perhaps thousands of innocent lives.

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How far, you ask? Only The

How far, you ask? Only The Shadow knows.

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Maybe TC knows?

Maybe TC knows?

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Let's examine the original

Let's examine the original post then, shall we?

Just listened to some drivel from political pukes (most of whom were DemocRats) expounding on how torture was wrong, wrong, wrong...period!

What exactly were you listening to? Is there a transcript for this dialogue so that we may examine what was said that so triggered your righteous indignation?

Well, torture is not wrong. It may be necessary.

Torture has been deemed "wrong" by many treaties and international conventions. Torture breeds more terrorists. Torture was rejected by the man who liberated our fledgling nation from brutal occupiers.

If your daughter was kidnapped and buried alive and you caught the kidnapper, there is no man on earth worth the name of father who would not put the bastard through some serious pain until he talked or died. This is ot just a movie scenario...it has actually happened more than once.

A hypothetical conjecture followed up by an assertion of fact. Link to these "daughter buried alive" cases, or should we all watch a Liam Neeson movie?

If you could torture one of the Islamic maggots who killed 3,000 people on 911, to get the plan before it happened, would you not put some serious effort on the bastard to try and stop it? Yep!

The Bush Administration was warned repeatedly prior to 9/11 by the CIA that Bin Laden was determined to strike the United States. Crickets from Dubya and his team of boobs. Poppy Bush was meeting with a Bin Laden family member for lunch on September 11th...maybe he could've asked?

To quote Sophocles..."The end excuses any evil."

Nice to see the reference to an ancient gay Greek playwright. The end justifies the means. A great excuse used millions of times.

More importantly, Sophocles also wrote: "Things gained through unjust fraud are never secure".

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WOW !!!!

WOW !!!!
Dope really does make you smahtah.

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It's all relative. Even a

It's all relative. Even a turkey seems smart compared to Watcher.

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The Clinton administration

The Clinton administration was also warned repeatedly. B.C. even had a chance to kill Bin Laden and skipped it. Lots of blame to go around.

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Nobody so far said they would

Nobody so far said they would let their child suffer and die rather than cause some pain or discomfort to a killer. Nobody has said so far that the death of thousands of innocent people is ok in order to avoid some pain and discomfort to a a terrorist. Talk is cheap. Actions are not always easy.

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A Huge AMEN !

A Huge AMEN !
DR and RS insufficient.

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What big talking Watcher

What big talking Watcher doesn't seem to know is that torture is actually not an effective means to gather intelligence. There are many links online that demonstrate this common knowledge - perhaps the anonymous brave guy could spend some time doing a little research before he looks the fool again.

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Torture has been used for

Torture has been used for interrogation since the beginning of time.
If it didn't work, it would have been dropped as an interrogation tool long ago.

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Ding ding ding ding ding!

Ding ding ding ding ding! The stupidest comment on the internet was just posted above.

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GW

GW
Yes, there are numerous resources on net. as you say.
The problem is they start from a viewpoint that is based on the opposition to the politicians
implementing use.
Then Bush derangement now Trump derangement syndromes.

Evidence is in fact it has been outlawed by those who now oppose it . They didn't like Bush they don't like Trump.

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Oops, I spoke too soon.

Oops, I spoke too soon.

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Then a you should have

Then you should have remained silent.

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Gerry, you seem

Gerry, you seem psychologically unable to carry on a civil and reasoned discussion. Like so many of your ilk, you get a little thrill when you can be rude.

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Lol.

Lol.

“Just listened to some drivel from political pukes (most of whom were democRats) expounding on how torture was wrong....”

Watcher is all about civil and reasoned discussion.

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Hey Mutt...where did I say I

Hey Mutt...where did I say I was a civil and reasonable debater? Nope never said it and I ain't. Nothing you quote above was in error, wrong or misleading. The Truth is the one central idea that you people cannot abide no matter how civil or rudely put.

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So there are studies on the

So there are studies on the internet, Fair Share? What a shock!

The Law of the Infinite Cornucopia, put forth by Polish philosopher Leszek Kołakowski suggests that for any given doctrine one wants to believe, there is never a shortage of arguments by which one can support it.

We always have postmodernism as an escape clause as well.

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So Watcher attempts to insult

So Watcher attempts to insult someone by telling them they post just like...

Watcher!

Lol. That’s some good stuff right there.

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Talk about torture. This is

Talk about torture. This is not one world. The vile creatures who have no humanism in them should be tortured to death for beheading this little girl. Might make the next savage think before trying the same thing.

Savage at the hut

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